Holiday Rentals Loire Valley

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DOUE EN ANJOU B&B & Gite

- We offer two studio gîtes for your stay. The first one is located on the first floor and can accommodate 2 people. It is classified as furnished tourist accommodation and requires a minimum stay of 2 nights. - The second studio gîte is situated on the ground floor and can accommodate 2-4 people. It is also classified as furnished tourist accommodation and requires a minimum stay of 2 nights, except for the period between June 1 and September 15 when a minimum stay of one week is required. Both gîtes come with a beautiful garden filled with trees, providing a relaxing atmosphere. You can enjoy the garden furniture and unwind in this peaceful setting. Additionally, private parking is available for your convenience. Our location is in a charming countryside hamlet, close to various attractions such as troglodyte caves, Zoo Bioparc Doué la Fontaine, the banks of the Loire River, vineyards, and Terra Botanica in Angers. Saumur and its famous black frame as well as Center Parc are also nearby. For those interested in outdoor activities, we offer hiking tours along the rivers, visits to stunning Loire castles, exploring vineyards, and discovering troglodyte dwellings, among other options.

Le Belvédère de Loire

Chênehutte Trêves Cunault B&B

Welcome to the Belvedere de Loire, a stunning hillside retreat offering panoramic views of the Loire River. Located within the heart of the Anjou Touraine Regional Park, our eco-friendly house is a testament to our commitment to environmental preservation. We are proud to contribute to the conservation of this precious UNESCO World Heritage Site, and we invite you to experience the beauty of this natural space during your stay with us.

La Belgerie

La Bernerie-en-retz B&B

Located just 7 km away from both Pornic and the Breton marsh, this destination offers the perfect spot for foot fishing, a delightful and affordable pastime that effortlessly blends relaxation with a culinary treat. Indulge in a variety of seasonal seafood delights like oysters, mussels, clams, and shrimp. Additionally, immerse yourself in the invigorating experiences of walking and cycling. Nestled in a peaceful setting, our house is conveniently situated only 900 meters away from the beach and local shops.

Domaine de la Cour

SEGRÉ B&B

Located in Saint Gemstones of Andigné with Segré (49), this accommodation consists of four guest houses that proudly display the CLEVACANCES signboard, ensuring a high level of comfort with a three-key rating. The guest houses are all on the same level, providing easy access for individuals with reduced mobility. Additionally, each guest house is equipped with a natural air conditioning system, courtesy of a Canadian well. Guests can also enjoy their own private courtyard.

Chambres D'Hôtes du Haut Anjou

Thorigné D'Anjou B&B

This delightful bed and breakfast is located just 3 minutes away from the Haras du Lion d'Angers and 20 minutes from Angers. Situated on the picturesque banks of the Mayenne River and only 2 kilometers from the vélo Francette towpath, it offers a charming retreat for guests. Housed in a beautiful late 19th-century building, this characterful bed and breakfast features three cozy bedrooms. Each room can accommodate between 2 to 4 people, providing comfortable and inviting spaces for a restful stay. Ideal for families or larger groups, the economical family suite consists of two interconnecting rooms. Each room has its own private bathroom, complete with a shower and toilet. With this configuration, the suite can comfortably accommodate up to 8 people. To ensure the safety and security of both our guests and ourselves, our house is equipped with an external video surveillance system. You can relax and enjoy your stay with peace of mind knowing that your wellbeing is our top priority.

Maison d'Hôtes "La Chèvrerie"

Vairé B&B & Gite

Located just a short distance from the sea, nestled between Les Sables d'Olonne and Challans, and only 5 km away from Brem sur mer beach, we invite you to enjoy a tranquil stay amidst the beautiful surroundings of the ocean and countryside. Whether you enjoy horseback riding, cycling, hiking, canoeing, or swimming, we have everything prepared for a delightful family vacation. Additionally, our table d'hôtes and Wifi services are available for the convenience of our traveling professionals. Our peaceful environment is home to a harmonious community of ducks, rabbits, chickens, and sheep, all living alongside our beloved Labrador, Licorice, who graciously watches over everyone. Please note that visits to animal parks must be accompanied for your safety and enjoyment.

Les Ecureuils

La Barre De Monts B&B

Experience a tranquil retreat at our charming Bed and Breakfast located in Fromentine/La Barre de Monts. Our idyllic establishment is the perfect destination for a peaceful rest while en route to Yeu Island or Noirmoutier. Situated just 2 km from Port Fromentine, we offer the convenience of transportation to and from Yeu Island, ensuring a seamless journey for our guests. Allow us to be your trusted hosts as you embark on your island adventure.

Chambres d'hôtes Le Clos du Piheux

Thorigne D'anjou B&B

Situated in the picturesque village of Thorigné d'Anjou (Maine et Loire), this charming guesthouse is surrounded by lush greenery, offering a peaceful retreat. With three generously sized bedrooms, the bed and breakfast can comfortably accommodate up to 10 guests. Conveniently located near the renowned National Haras of the Lion d'Angers and its prestigious Mondial du Lion d'Angers equestrian competition, guests have the opportunity to explore the nearby attractions of Angers, Segré, Saumur, and the captivating castles of the Val de Loire. For those seeking adventure, various options such as cycling, walking, or horse riding are available to discover the breathtaking landscapes along the Mayenne and Loire riversides.

La Pecherie

La Plaine Sur Mer B&B

Welcome to "Of Sea Bed and Breakfast," where you can experience the perfect blend of coastal charm and comfortable lodging. Join us for a delightful stay in our seaside retreat, where the soothing sounds of the ocean waves will lull you to sleep. Immerse yourself in a tranquil atmosphere, surrounded by breathtaking views of the sea. Our cozy accommodations provide a serene getaway, ensuring a rejuvenating and unforgettable experience.

"La planche Pinçon ancien lieu-dit "

TELOCHE B&B

Nestled within a serene park setting, this tranquil abode offers three inviting rooms for guests seeking a peaceful retreat.

La Haute Folie

Le Grand Lucé B&B

Located on the first floor of a charming old house in a quaint city, just a stone's throw away from Le Mans and the iconic 24 hours circuit, are two cozy bedrooms complete with private bathrooms and a separate WC.

Le Bois Joli

Mesnard La Barotiere B&B

This bed and breakfast offers three bedrooms. The cottage is located just a short 20-minute drive away (12 miles) from the popular attraction called the "Well of Crazy." Additionally, it is conveniently situated only 800 meters from a variety of recreational activities, such as fishing, swimming, Acrobranche (a tree climbing adventure park), mini golf, and walking trails around the lake and surrounding area.

Previera

Ombree D Anjou B&B

Les Terrasses du Léard

Neuville Sur Sarthe B&B & Gite

Come and experience a warm welcome in our charming guest rooms named "Purple" and "Poppy," as well as our delightful independent guest house boasting retro rooms inspired by Moroccan and Andalusian styles. Nestled in the picturesque town of Neuville sur Sarthe, specifically in the serene area known as The Léard at Trugalle, our residence lies just 8.5 km north of Le Mans. Immerse yourself in the tranquility of our beautifully landscaped garden, offering a truly peaceful and rejuvenating retreat.

Au Cadran Solaire

Nantes B&B & Gite

We have two brand new studios available for you. One studio measures 22 square meters, while the other is slightly larger at 25 square meters. These studios are located in a peaceful and green environment, with convenient access to shops and transportation. Inside, you will have high-speed internet access, a television, and a kitchenette. One of the studios is also designed to be accessible for disabled individuals. Each studio has its own separate bathroom and toilet, as well as a lovely terrace or balcony. The sleeping arrangements include either a comfortable 160x200 bed in one studio or two cozy 90x190 beds in the other. We take care of preparing the beds for you before your arrival and provide towels for your convenience. Furthermore, at the end of your stay, we will handle the cleaning. If you choose, you can also opt for a delicious organic breakfast with our cart BIO option.

Boizen

Saint Jean De Boiseau B&B

Discover the charming BOIZEN bed and breakfast in the picturesque village of Saint Jean of Boiseau, perfectly positioned just 15 km from the vibrant city of Nantes. Set on the serene south shore of the Loire River, this idyllic accommodation offers an ideal retreat for travelers seeking tranquility and convenience. For further information, please visit our website at http://boizen.free.fr.

Logis du Parc

Saint Fulgent B&B

Conveniently situated in Vendée, this Bed and Breakfast is just a short 25-minute drive from the renowned Parc Puy du Fou and a mere 40 minutes away from the sea and Nantes. Nestled on a tranquil 6000m² plot adorned with beautiful trees, this contemporary-style Vendéen House offers a serene retreat. Your guest house features a delightful heated pool, available for your enjoyment from May until September.

Chambres d hôtes Nature Détente

Dissay sous Courcillon B&B & Gite

Located between Tours and Le Mans, in close proximity to the Arrow Zoo, Le Mans Circuit, and only a two-hour drive from Paris, we invite you to explore our cozy guesthouses and holiday cottage. Offering comfortable accommodations, our family rooms and suites overlook a beautifully landscaped park. Start your day with a delicious breakfast served in our unique hut-like dining area. From our B&B, you can easily visit the historic towns of Le Mans and Tours, explore magnificent castles, and embark on numerous scenic hikes. At our establishment, immerse yourself in the tranquil atmosphere of our peaceful park.

Heflo

Quilly B&B

In the charming setting of a small hamlet, Helen and Florence extend a warm invitation to join them at their cozy family farmhouse, ensuring a delightful and memorable experience for all who visit.

Logis La Folie

Mareuil Sur Lay Dissais B&B & Gite

Welcome to the charming 19th century Logis "La Folie"! Situated just 1 km away from the picturesque village of Mareuil sur Lay, this historical accommodation offers three cozy cottages for your comfort. Immerse yourself in the beauty of the surroundings, where you can explore the stunning Marie du Fou Castle and the exquisite Romanesque church. Our location is perfect, as we are conveniently situated at the intersection of the plain, the woods, and the swamps, where you can find all the shops and restaurants you need. Additionally, a delightful shaded footpath on our property leads directly to Mareuil, just a leisurely 10-minute walk away.

Logis la Tour des Laudes

Breuil Barret B&B

Welcome to the Tour des Laudes, a charming 16th-century residence that offers a variety of comfortable guest rooms perfect for families. Located in the beautiful South-Vendée region, right next to popular attractions such as PUY-du-FOU and MARAIS POITEVIN, you will also have the chance to explore numerous other tourist, sports, and cultural activities. Our spacious rooms can accommodate up to 15 guests, with two specifically designed for families. Enjoy the peaceful countryside setting, with gardens at your disposal, ensuring a tranquil and relaxing stay.

LA FRISE

Corpe B&B

Welcome to "LA FRISE" Bed and Breakfast! Located at the intersection of No Mareuillais and the Marais Poitevin, just 15 minutes away from the beautiful sandy beaches of the Vendee coast. Michèle and Patrick are delighted to welcome you to our warm and inviting establishment, whether you are here for a vacation or for business purposes.

La Cloue

Lassay Les Chateaux B&B

This serene restored farmhouse, boasting a rich history of 200 years, is nestled on a spacious 15-acre property, offering magnificent vistas of the surrounding valley. Located a mere 2 kilometers away from Lassay Les Châteaux, a charming Petite Medieval City, it provides convenient access to explore the area. Guests can enjoy complimentary Wi-Fi, ample car parking, and a smoke-free environment. Additionally, a delectable breakfast is included, featuring fresh produce sourced from the large organic vegetable garden, alongside orchard fruits and eggs from free-range chickens.

Gite De Baude

Montreuil B&B & Gite

Thérèse and Serge Fillonneau cordially invite you to their charming country cottage nestled in the picturesque "marais poitevin" in South - Vendee. Located in the tranquil rural hamlet of Baude, just 2km from Montreuil, 12km from Fontenay the Comte, and a mere 45km from the beautiful beaches of la Faute sur mer, this idyllic retreat is also conveniently situated only 60km from the vibrant city of la Rochelle. Originally an ancient farm spanning 130 m2, this delightful residence underwent a complete renovation in 2002, carefully preserving the architectural heritage of the region while adding modern comforts to create a cozy and welcoming country home. Thanks to the fuel-fired central heating system, the gîte is available for your enjoyment all year round. Whether you desire a short weekend getaway, a week-long escape, or an extended stay, our flexible options cater to your needs.

La Jarrie

BELLEVIGNY B&B

La Jarrie guest house is nestled in the picturesque Vendée countryside, making it the perfect location for exploring the region. Situated halfway between the stunning Vendée coast and the renowned Puy du Fou, guests will have easy access to both destinations, just 50 km away. Additionally, within an hour's drive, you can visit the enchanting island of Noirmoutier, the charming pier of Ile dYeu, or the tranquil Poitevin marshes. We take great pleasure in welcoming you to our delightful property. The two bedrooms, tastefully furnished in the traditional style of an old Vendée barn, can comfortably accommodate up to five people. Start your day with a scrumptious breakfast served in the adjoining veranda, which offers a breathtaking view of our beautiful garden.

Le Logis de Saint-Martin

Haute-Goulaine B&B

WELCOME In the Nantais vineyard, 15 km from the center of Nantes and near the Goulaine marshes, the Logis de Saint-Martin warmly welcomes you all year round with warmth and conviviality. Its 4 tastefully decorated guest rooms in Haute-Goulaine will charm you. We look forward to welcoming you to the Logis de Saint-Martin.

Domaine de Joreau

Gennes-Val de Loire B&B & Gite

The Domaine de Joreau in Gennes is a hidden gem. It was once the servants' quarters of a château and is nestled in a tranquil valley within the regional nature reserve "Loire - Anjou - Touraine". Explore this stunning part of the Loire valley, which has been recognized as a UNESCO World Heritage site since 2000. We have 3 charming bed & breakfast rooms that can accommodate up to 10 guests, as well as a delightful holiday rental that is ideal for 2-4 people. If you crave relaxation in a warm and inviting setting, you have discovered the perfect destination.

le pot au lait

Villaines la Juhel B&B

Jean-luc and Beatrice cordially invite you to their modern property nestled between Alencon and Laval. Experience the comfort of their meticulously designed bed and breakfast, offering a luxurious fitted bedroom suite in a contemporary house.

Gypsynature

Longue Jumelles B&B

Our Romany Caravan is situated on a spacious 14-hectare property in the picturesque Loire Valley (49 dept.). This charming accommodation is fully equipped with everything you need for a tranquil and comfortable holiday, including a heating system, shower, and wc. Perfect for a couple or a small family, the caravan can comfortably accommodate up to two adults and a baby in the provided cot.

Le Petit Chaton

Parigné l' évêque B&B

We offer 3 bedrooms conveniently situated just a 10-minute drive away from the renowned Le Mans 24-hour circuit. Begin your day with a delightful poolside breakfast. Additionally, we provide the option to arrange personalized dining experiences upon request.

Au Passage du Gois

Beauvoir-sur-Mer B&B & Gite

Experience the dream for yourself at the magnificent “Au Passage du Gois” in Beauvoir-sur-Mer, situated along the stunning Vendée coastline in the Atlantic Loire region. Indulge in a tantalizing taste of the extraordinary life we're living.

L'annexe 43 gite centre ville pour 2 pers. - wifi, parking, linge inclus

Guerande B&B & Gite

This gite is conveniently located near the city center, making it an ideal choice for two people. The minimum rental period is two nights. Annex 43 offers a fully equipped kitchen, a comfortable lounge with a TV, a dining area, a bedroom with a king size bed, and a bathroom with a toilet. Guests also have access to a terrace and garden. Additionally, the rental includes a parking space, bike shelters, and access to wifi. Bed linen, towels, shower sheets, and kitchen linen are all provided for your convenience, with the bed already made upon your arrival.

Lorali

St Mathurin Sur Loire B&B

Situated in close proximity to the picturesque Loire River, Catherine and Lionel extend a warm invitation to their charming farmhouse. Conveniently positioned between the enchanting cities of Angers and Saumur, you can expect a delightful bed and breakfast experience with all the modern comforts you desire.

Manoir de La Baudonnière Chambres D'Hotes et Gites

Monsireigne B&B & Gite

Our stunning 16th-century Bourgeoise Manor is conveniently situated only 25kms away from the magnificent Puy du Fou park. Preserving its authentic charm, the manor boasts original wooden floors, exposed beams, enchanting stone stairways, and a remarkable oak fireplace. Immerse yourself in the serene atmosphere of La Baudonnière, where tranquillity reigns and relaxation is guaranteed throughout your stay. Located in the Vendee area, our manor benefits from a unique microclimate, ranking as the second sunniest region in France. Revel in abundant sunshine reminiscent of the sunny south. Within a convenient one-hour drive, you'll find a mesmerizing stretch of 140kms of pristine sandy beaches, widely recognized as some of the finest in Europe.

Les Chambres D'hotes Le Pré Sec

Pouillé B&B

Explore the enchanting Vendée region, where you will find yourself in an ideal location at the heart of a bustling tourist hub. From here, you can embark on unforgettable adventures at the Grand Parc du Puy du Fou (45 minutes away), take leisurely strolls through the picturesque Marais Poitevin (15 minutes away), bask in the sun on the pristine ocean beaches (40 minutes away), and visit the charming village of Vouvant (20 minutes away). Immerse yourself in the rich history of the Vendée by exploring its numerous outdoor historical sites. Additionally, you can easily access the vibrant cities of the region in no time, including La Rochelle (50 minutes away), Nantes (50 minutes away), Les Sables d'Olonne (1 hour and 10 minutes away), and Poitiers (1 hour and 10 minutes away).

Les Champs-Blancs

Avrille B&B

Danielle and Daniel warmly invite you to their lovely home situated at the entrance of Angers. Experience a peaceful and verdant environment at their charming Bed and Breakfast, awarded "3 ears Gite de France" status. The accommodation features two bedrooms, one with a comfortable queen-size bed (140) and the other with twin beds (90x2). A bathroom and toilet are also available. Immerse yourself in the local flavor of ANJOU, known for its exceptional vegetables, exquisite wines, and rich cultural heritage. Explore the nearby Terra Botanica, just 2 kilometers away, or conveniently access the tram in only 2 minutes. The fairgrounds are also a short 10-minute drive away. Please note that smoking is not permitted. Easy access to the property is provided by the nearby Paris-Nantes highway, with exits 16 or 17.

La Petite Boire - Maison d'hôtes près d'Angers

Murs Erigné B&B

Nestled amidst untouched natural beauty, surrounded by the enchanting Loire and Louet rivers, lies the charming abode known as "La petite Boire." Situated a mere 15 minutes away from the bustling heart of Angers, our residence is a former hemp farm, boasting the classic architectural style of an Anjou farmhouse. Constructed in the mid-19th century using a harmonious blend of wood, limestone, and shale, our home provides the perfect sanctuary for couples, families, and friends seeking a tranquil retreat. Be it for a brief sojourn or an extended vacation, "La petite Boire" is the ultimate haven for relaxation and rejuvenation.

Chambres D'Hôtes De La Roche

Frossay B&B

Welcome to Bed and Breakfast La Roche, situated in the charming town of Frossay (44320). Our ideal location between Nantes and the Atlantic beaches, including St-Nazaire, Saint-Brevin-Les-Pins, and Pornic, makes us the perfect choice for your stay. Additionally, we are conveniently located near the Canal de la Martinière, which is part of the Loire Route Bike. Whether you are traveling for business and in need of accommodation, looking to explore the beautiful region of Retz, or attending a wedding or any other occasion, we are here to cater to your needs. Our two guest rooms are inspired by our own travels, offering a unique and comfortable experience. We warmly welcome guests throughout the year, whether it be for a single night or an extended stay. We hope to have the pleasure of hosting you soon!

Gîte les Champs Heureux

Mouchamps B&B

Located in close proximity to the renowned Puy du Fou, this charming guest house promises a delightful blend of comfort and serenity.

L'Arcane du Bellay

Montreuil Bellay B&B

Situated in a picturesque village in France, our location provides the perfect base for exploring the enchanting Loire castles, wine cellars, and charming troglodytic villages. Nestled within a stunning sixteenth-century house, our elegant and generously proportioned rooms offer delightful views of either the lush gardens or the magnificent castle. Wake up to a delectable homemade gourmet breakfast each morning. Indulge in the pleasures of our heated pool and, weather permitting, partake in rejuvenating relaxation sessions amidst the serenity of our garden, including invigorating massages.

Aux Charmes D'Antan

La Pommeraie Sur Sevre B&B

Welcome to Aux Charmes d'Antan, where Catherine and Philippe eagerly await your arrival. This 18th-century farmhouse has been fully restored this year, offering five charming guest rooms for your comfort. Nestled in the serene hills of Sevre Pommeraie, just 15 minutes away from the renowned Puy du Fou, our farm is enveloped in lush greenery, providing an atmosphere of tranquility and calm. Start your day by joining us for a delightful breakfast served around our welcoming family table. Whether you're seeking a peaceful night's stay or planning to indulge in a few days of relaxation, we warmly invite singles, couples, and families to experience the enchanting ambiance of Aux Charmes d'Antan - a place that feels like home.

Le Clos de La Vigne

Montreuil B&B

Our family suite is located in the beautiful region of South Vendée, France, near the Atlantic coast and the Marais Poitevin. Situated on the upper floor of our historic house, which boasts over 200 years of rich history, the suite exudes the distinctive architectural style of the Vendée region.

Logis De La Bénétière

Treize Vents B&B

Nestled in a serene green setting, Logis of Bénétière warmly welcomes you to enjoy a delightful stay in our charming guest rooms. Our accommodations can comfortably accommodate 3 to 4 people, with an additional suite available for larger groups of 8. Located just 10 minutes away from the renowned Puy du Fou®, our location in Vendée offers convenience and easy access to this popular attraction.

Le Logis de La Contrèche

Champ Sur Layon B&B

Michelle and Alain warmly invite you to their charming 18th-century residence nestled in the picturesque Coteaux du Layon region, along the renowned wine route. Embracing the rich heritage of winemaking, our home is adorned with tasteful vine-themed decor. As our esteemed guests, you will have the delightful chance to explore a collection of both vintage and contemporary winemaking tools, offering a fascinating glimpse into the evolution of this timeless craft.

La Maison DOUVIER

Trange B&B

This accommodation offers 5 bedrooms that can accommodate 2 people each. It is conveniently located just 5 minutes away from Le Mans, 19 kilometers from the renowned 24-hour circuit, and 15 kilometers from the European horse Pole.

La Mamora

St Brévin les Pins B&B

Discover the ultimate holiday destination along the breathtaking Loire Atlantique coastline. Prepare to be captivated by the enchanting beaches, including the renowned La Baule, named the most beautiful beach in Europe. Our exquisite bed and breakfast accommodations in St Brévin les Pins offer unrivaled comfort and convenience. Each of our four bedrooms is equipped with modern amenities such as TV, WIFI, and HI-FI, along with a luxurious electric double bed measuring 1.60m, and an additional single bed of 0.90m. Indulge in the privacy of your own bathroom, complete with a rejuvenating balnéo shower, WC, and a personal terrace adorned with garden furniture, deckchairs, and a stunning view of the swimming pool. Immerse yourself in the tranquility of our vast 2700m² park, featuring a heated swimming pool and a jacuzzi. Additionally, our fully equipped kitchen, baby equipment, and ample parking ensure a seamless and enjoyable stay.

La Poussardiere

Mouzeuil Saint Martin B&B & Gite

Located on the outskirts of the Marais Poitevin, Poussardiere is conveniently situated 45 km away from La Rochelle, 60 km from Les Sables d'Olonne and the Puy du Fou, and only 30 km from the coastal area. Karlyn extends a warm welcome to guests, offering comfortable accommodations for a single night or longer stays. In addition to telephone marketing services, delightful table and breakfast options are available upon request.

Le Jardin des Nosières

Le Boupère B&B

Welcome to our charming village of Bocage, nestled in the picturesque region of Vendée. Situated just 15 minutes away from the renowned Puy du Fou and a mere hour's drive from the stunning coastline, our village offers the perfect location for an unforgettable getaway.

Le Gite Au Cheval D'Or

La Meilleraie Tillay B&B & Gite

This fully independent 60m² in-house apartment is owned by the proprietors. It features a living room with a fully equipped kitchen, 2 bedrooms, and a separate bathroom with toilet. Enjoy peace and tranquility in the heart of the countryside, while being conveniently located just 15 minutes away from the Puy du Fou, 1 hour from the Atlantic coast, and 1 hour from Nantes Airport (transportation available upon request). Additionally, there are numerous cultural and relaxing activities available on-site. For more information, please give us a call.

Villandry

Batz Sur Mer B&B

This tranquil detached house is nestled in a peaceful garden. On the upper floor, you will find two spacious double bedrooms, ideal for a family. There is also a convenient WC, a bathroom with both a shower and a bathtub, a game room, as well as amenities like a TV and WiFi. The property is conveniently located just 300m away from both the breathtaking sea and the lively town center. Additionally, bicycles are available for you to explore the surroundings if desired.